I un installed it and discovered that both the screw and the benji was shaved. I REALLY LOVE THE FEEL OF THIS RIFLE! At close range (under 20 yards) they are fine, but I would use a diabolo at longer ranges. Believe it or not, it is easier to hit a 3-inch target than to group in three inches. I have come across my father-in-laws Benjamin Franklin H 39666. Do you use the B-Square mount in conjunction with the b272? Anyways I have the Benjamin 397 and was wondering what you think is a nice distance to zero in the open sights to for a well rounded point of impact for shooting mostly done between the 10-20yards mark. Most of the positions I held the rifle in had at least one good or semi-good quality to it, and most had an almost random seeming scatter of pellets. Perhaps more importantly on, on the subject of pellet selection, how would you rank the following pellets to be able to hit a chucks skull and penetrate when it does: gamo hunter, gamo masterpoint, crosman premier, JSB exact express, JSB exact jumbo, B&S Diablo, Beeman Kodiak? Thanks for any insight you can provide. B-Square makes a scope mount base that positions the scope over the receiver, but Im not certain it works with the 397. Do you know in what major ways the Benjamin and Sheridan differed prior to the merger/buyout? Should I add pellgunoil to the joints, or is this just what happens when the joints are not in motion for an extended time? You want a .22 with the same accuracy as a Gamo Shadow 1000. The tell II shoots, but seems a little underpowered, probably from 70+ years of use. Six pumps on balance pointI got a 1 and 11/16 inch group with a firm grip (average 2 and 3/16 inch) , and a 2 and 4/16 inch group with a loose grip (average 2 and 4/16). Sorry for the delay answering you. If the 392 will do the job it would be a lot easier for me. One thing I have noticed is that the B-Square mount seems to angle downward, as in the plane of the scope base is not parallel to the barrel. Ive had a 392 about 3 weeks now, cool little gun, kinda grows on you. I do have a short question. or a long tube with a hole in it? Whats the difference between pellgunoil and weblube? im still trying to get a benjamin 392, ive checked almost all pawn shops around 30 miles from my house, my parents wont drive me to any gun shows, and they wont put any credit card numbers on the internet for fear that someone will hack it and take their money. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. The pellet impacted exactly where I was aiming for an instant kill. If there is a felt wiper behind the head (like the one I pictured in the Benjamin HB22 post) oil there, and for the same reason as for the HB 22. For most people, that would be 15-25 yards. It will help others understand what is happening in many sectors of their lives. Just got it (fast, great service) and took it out tonight very happy! This is a solidly made single-shot, bolt-action, .22 caliber, multi-stroke pneumatic air rifle. That is the date I published it. George PenaGeorge is a Texan who fixes American pneumatics. Ive never sighted one of these in at less than 20 yards. Yesterday, one of my coworkers brought in a older 22 caliber Benjamin that he wanted me to research on the internet. P.S. I have a cabinet filled with dozens of tins of inaccurate pellets. I must have bought these back in 1959 or so serials H75236 and H314989. Birds tend to be tougher than bunnies because feathers tend to be like armor. The sight of Benjamin 392 is anopen sight with a fixed front sight. There's also a front fiber optic post sight. It needs a rebuild and refinish. I used a ball-point pin to push them in with out maring the skirt with the back of my finger-nail. He will restore airguns to operational specs, but he wont increase power in guns beyond the factory levels. . Theres another one of those stickers on it!!! https://www.pyramydair.com/product/b-square-17010-benjamin-sheridan-scope-base-weaver-picatinny-rail?a=431. Tell me about the Logan pump. (will it hit a pop can or a quarter?). I never liked scopes on multi pump pneumatics. ql. Unable to add item to List. Thank you very much for your time.-Robert. I understand why you state that your opposition to mounting these rifles because of the pumping issue, but Ive come up with a suggestion that my help others out. His business card says Benjamin, Sheridan and old Crosman model 140/1400 pneumatic air rifle repair. He puts them back to factory specs. A 397 with good pellets will take a squirrel or rabbit at that range. . The groups are nice and tight, just in the wrong place. Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:33 am Posts: 7 . The 3X9 would be a good compromise and might help with sighting in. What more can I tell you? They also reinforce the lever mechanism, and give the rifle a trigger job while they are at it. I was out this morning scouting the edge of the woods behind my house and there seemed to be a lack of squirrel chatter, and i hear no birds whatsoever. PS: It looks just like my Blue Streak 1974 model serial 014454 that has never failed me. One has a strange rear site which are two half circles. Later I bought a 392. For example, as an Amazon Associate, HAM earns from qualifying purchases if you buy by clicking-through from that link. So much trial and error!!! It was purchased brand new in 1972, when I was 13 years old. craigslist.com has no towns in the area that my parents will drive to, and garage sales are also bereft of bb guns of any kind. If so, the peep needs a higher front sight to compensate. Fits Benjamin 397/392 and Sheridan multi-pump rifles Easily slips on the receiver, spanning the pellet-loading area 2-piece intermount mounts on receiver & included Picatinny rail attaches to the intermount Includes 2-piece aluminum intermount, 2 steel screws and Picatinny rail Additional Details Small Business This is what bb has to say about them.George PenaGeorge is a Texan who fixes American pneumatics. bb, Im really intrested in picking up a 397, I am also very atatched to a leapers bugbuster 2 that I have mounted on an old daisy powerline.Will the bugbuster mount far enough back on the 397 to shoot comfortably? Do you need to remove both those screws or only one. A 392 is probably not more accurate than a Powerline 1000, but it is much easier to shoot. Benjamin 392 with wood stock availability? Its the bomb . How do you keep your 392 in tip top shape? What can I do to fix the problem???? Its just a slang term for inertia. BB, I finally recieved my 392, and am kinda displeased with it. The peep sight used to be a very simple affait to install. I just received this gun, and when I fire (dry fire), I hear a wimpy little sputter versus a pop. I also got the recommended Williams peep sight. General question: Looking to buy either the 392 or the 397, probably only to be used for target practice. It still looks great and I think it is time to fire it again after sitting in the closet for 18 years. Alot of us love and shoot that gun.FYI, you posted to a blog that B.B. I cant wait to shoot it, but i dont have any pellets yet, so i pumped the gun once (yep, its a little hard to pump, and i cant use my left hand, severed the tendon couple months ago), and set it in the corner of my room. Now Velocity Outdoor has announced that this new model is in production and has started shipping from the factory. If you have done that, the valve has too much pressure or the hammer to open it. Initially, she wanted a BB gun. I say that because there are MANY rifles equivalent to the 392. Be careful as they are springy and hold tight an the barrel solder line can crack under too much strain. oh and that izh 61 looks really good too, i remembered something about the izh in ur blogs and went looking for it. If you do it yourself you learn more about yourself and the gun you are using. Help others learn more about this product by uploading a video! The reason I cant tell is I dont know where the knob was set when you started. I waited for her to go out and then I went in the Back yard to check it out and sight it in. Just received my purchased 397 and it is a sturdy rifle that Im sure going to enjoy. With those you have to choice. The air is compressed when the piston moves rapidly forward, shoved by the mainspring. Pull the handle down to lock the gun and you are ready to shoot in a few seconds. Hold it on top of the barrel at that point. Perhaps I should dissasemble the whole thing and start from scratch. Thats parallax. Visiting our advertisers and/or clicking Affiliate Links is the best way you can say thank you to HAM, enabling this magazine to be free to read. The reason the B-Square mount doesnt get good reviews is because people dont install it correctly. I have takenabout 4 squirrels no problem all with good shot placement of course, but overall do you feel the 397 has good power for small game hunting? I believe you mean will it kill the animal without suffering? Thanks, Matt. Could you suggest any repair shops in the vicinity of Oklahoma for these repairs? You are asking about a major machining project. Therefore, you should think twice about buying a scope or you can do yourself a favor and get a William peep sight as the best option. I dont recommend you use this gun in the suburban/city area especially if you are close to other houses. Yes, definitely keep a pump of air in you 392 at all times. Im saving the bulldogs and pointeds for the sand bags!!! 244. Or should I try out the Crosman 800x? Wondered if any lower priced alternatives are worth considering? Now Im going to have to rethink my earlier decision. Continue with Recommended Cookies. Just read through your blog after the 397 was recommended by a store. Contact him at airgunshop@aol.com or call 717-382-1481. The RWS Diana 34 is hardly a small rifle. The 392 is a little louder than the Quest 1000. Can you send me an internet link to show how to repair this gun with the pyramid kits? Its a reasonable price if you consider that all parts of this gun are made of genuine hardwood and metal. HAM readers will have seen a prototype of a the new, synthetic stock Benjamin Variable Pump air rifle in our reports from the 2019 SHOT Show. It will group an inch at 50 yards on a relatively calm day. Thanks, Thomas. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. Its a Crosman Intermount! Like, say mailing a check? He rights a daily blog at https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/ every Mon-Fri where alot of good people answer questions, share information, etc. 5. . (Easy Methods). Can you recommend any particular blog on the 3/8 inch dovetail rail mount installation? The Bug Buster is 4 power, the Bug Buster 2 is 6. A nice solid thunk instead of the tink I was used to hearing. But does it have the same great quality as the one sold many years ago? Does the Williams Sight improve accuracy much better then stock? Is the quality higher in the .20 caliber? I think 7.9 grains if okay. . Now, you ask if B-Square scope rings will clamp onto a 3/8 dovetail. Would using weblube cause any damage or would it just not work as well? also, which caliber would you recommend or prefer?and for either caliber, which brand of pellets or bbs are the most accurate in your opinion? First, it's very hard-hitting, especially for a multi-pump rifle. (Im thinking maybe the 397 due to smaller pellet). B-Square rings are made for adult air rifles while the Crosman Intermount is more of a stopgap measure to put a scope on a gun that doesnt have a good base for it. I would really like to go bug bustin, but the only insects around my house that i actually notice are butterflies, june bugs, asian beetles, boxelder bugs, honey bees, and sometimes a yellowjacket, most of which arent to good to shoot. I also feel like the price is a little high at $230, Reviewed in the United States on April 6, 2022. I will say that the box stores in California seem a bit shy about even carrying .22 pellets. Yes, that is entirely normal. Word verification is software provided by Blogger. I believe I will get the Talon SS and add a longer barrel later if necessary. The windage was turned 540 degrees west. BB-Now I know that you think scopes are a bad idea on multipumps because they get in the way during pumping. Priced Under $200 - I got mine for $129, I bought it as a refurbished gun. Ill have to save my money and buy the IZH off pyramydair later next year. So far I love my new gun. BB, thanks for awnsering so quickly I most likely will get this gun keep up the good work bb, BB, could you tell me what pellets would be best for this gun?Those one pellets that are called hyper volicity lead free pellets are those good for the benjamin.if not thats fine.I need to know some good pellets so i can order them with the benjamin thanks alot. Gotcha. What would a dive shop charge to fill up the bottle. I dont believe in scopes on multi-pump pneumatics. Yes, itsd a good domed pellet, which is fine for hunting. and pumping the gun up so as to get its max distance would be annoying and my arm would get tired after a few shots. I think ill buy this first for plinking until i can force myself to save the money forthe benjamin 392. Pyramyd sells the Blue Book and Amazon has Elbes. I have a Benjamin Franklin 342, .22 cal. Heres a good article to read that B.B. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. I just bought the 392 from you guys, and a scope and the B272 mounts that I need to mount on the gun before I can mount the scope. ), I bought a sampler pack of RWS pellets at the bass pro shop outside Knoxville, while on the road, and when I got home I tried them on both my springer and old reliable 397, and I must say I was impressed. the closer i put my hand bracing the barrel to the front sight, the easier it is to pump. Add a peep sight!One really nice upgrade is the Crosman 64 peep sight. What you are doing is using a two-point brace. As for pellets, use the heaviest accurate pellet you can find. what scope would you recommend for this gun, aswell as mounts and rings? A round hole forces the eye to concentrate on the center because thats where the light is greatest. The pull is very comfortable, better than many of my smoke-rifles. I promise. Should I write my check out to Pyramyd Air Gun Mall? I found one maker (H & N) on this site who does make a 22 caliber round ball, but it is finished with a black graphite coating. In conclusion, 8 pumps while holding the slope in a firm or loose grip seems to be my best bet and I will keep practicing, constantly changing and testing out new ways. The rifle pumps up ok but does not hold the charge for very long. I found that a flimsy metal piece on the levers had curled and bent over causing the wobble. Someone who spends as much time on the internet as you do should certainly have stumbled onto them by now. I would give you some general references, but they are about firearms in general and you probably want books on sights, alone. Further along the way, the US Marine Corps got wind of his excellent combination of skills and sought to put them into good use by employing him as a combat correspondent. I am glad I did not pay the extra for the easy-pump modification. The best pellet for your gun is the JSB Exact domed pellet. What about a Crosman 140 or 1400? I know the 392 has a lot of loyal fans, but unfortunately, I wasnt pleased with it. Lets find out in this detailed CrosmanBenjamin 392 .22 review. I had smoke coming out the firt couple shots. So if you insist to use the scope on this gun, you will need either Crosman 3/8 Intermount or the Air Venturi Weaver/Picatinny Intermount. One thing I still dont understand. Terms of Use | We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. How do I browse to the current page? Please try again. 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