Im all for justice, reviewing facts and overturning corrupt decisions. Foote then handled the juvenile docket and first encountered Downs when he ordered her two surviving children into state protective custody. I read the letter they sent to the Downs when they were fighting to see their grandchildren. Diane needs some serious spiritual advancement and atonement before she ever will have or deserve peace. The absence of the gun or gun powder residues on Diane is fact. No worries. If a person were innocent of the crime they were convicted of this puts them in a no-win situation. Except after the idea was subsequently planted in his head only to be alluded to in court, in spite of an agreement to never mention the subject. Where is the blood spatter on Diane? There have many times children have had to testify against their parents so the fact that many cant believe it was ever allowed should honestly research more. I am a strong believer that pregnancy can do serious harm to some women. Diane was diagnosed as being bipolar and subsequently diagnosed by a psychiatrist before sentencing. Wrong. She never hurt anyone in the process of escaping. Hugi did not want that. Moms were working more, we were becoming the latch key generation, as in we let ourselves in alone while still in elementary school.when I mentioned before about maturity of a 8, 9, 10 year oldwe loved playing outside on bikes, and playing with our dolls, boys usually had their action figures..lol.and we loved our moms, even if they were young and liked to go out and sent us to babysitters..the book and movie, Im quite sure, over did the situation..and Im sure there was more on both sides, the family of diane, diane herself, but well never know all the details. I will agree that it was suspicious that Diane got away with one bullet in the arm, even if the injury was severe, but she was outside the car and many scenarios are possible to that effect. 3 yr. ago. Brewer stood ready to testify in June 1991, that it was because of Prosecutor Hugis lie that he changed his mind to convict and that he alone was responsible for silencing the dissenting votes of two other jurors (Appendix 97). It was pitch black outside. I watched and worried through her escapeto find her childrens real attackerthat bushy haired stranger . Then feel free to correct the facts and to provide evidence to support them. John Shea who played Fred in the TV movie Small Sacrifices even looks like him. I mention in the blog that Dianes mental health is in question so it is obvious that her encounter with her long lost daughter was going to be difficult. The fact that she was driving five miles per hour to the hospital says it all as a mother myself, I dont care how hurt or mentally damaged I was, I would drive that car 100 MPH to get my children to safety. I think that the US system is barbaric How about dads side of the family? If you have an opinion on drugging a child to make her talk, a judge presiding over a criminal case when he was in family court and removed the children from the defendants or the forensics, ballistic, etc. USA population seems to shun complex ethical problems preferring to deal with absolute evil in order to exert absolute power to crush it. She was fighting back and they did not like it. There are documented cases of suicides where the person has no GNR, as well as murder cases. And by the way, I wrote the blogs about Rule way before she passed. I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. I just read your opinion on the Pamela Smart case and the Scott Peterson case. We dont know. As for how to answer this question,,, seems like he is assuming guilt and because of this my parents or me or my brothers and sister, our uncles and aunts were not considered because of an unproven allegation Does he truly believe this is ok??? I think DD is guilty, but I also think her trial was far from due process, and that is the important issue. This case had many similarities to the Alice Crimminsstory. 2 years in foster care waiting to be legally free for adoption is not that uncommon even today. I agree. High profile cases usually do not get the same treatment as regular folks. Not right at all. You are right. They came up with an explanation as to why this was the wrong gun but the jig was up. They checked her shoes and they were clean. The kind of TV series that they produce on high profile crimes will make sure to turn public opinion. Great blog post, thank you. Rule sued the Seattle Weekly after they published the article titled Ann Rules Sloppy Storytelling, but she lost and had to make restitution. The fact that the Hugis did so successfully is arguably proof of this. Their theory was very shaky. In reply to Nick. She learnedat a young age to keep her emotions in check and to always present a strong and brave front. She then went through the State (Circuit) Court habeas corpus relief for four years to no avail. If the police department had done their job properly, I would not have written this blog, no matter the outcome. And she should be allowed parole! It was the story of Diane Downs. You mention that her attorney should have raised objections. She was not given one inch of presumption of innocence. It does seem time has done worse to her. Downs was constantly provoked by inmates because of the nature of her situation, and she never once attacked or defended herself in a violent manner. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? Yes, Christie said she did not know who did it. During cross-examination, she said that she witnessed the murders while sitting up and that Cheryl was sitting up on the front seat when she got shot. Take your smugness elsewhere, at long last. The fact that she and her brother Danny were eventually adopted by Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs is the most blatant case of conflict of interest I have ever heard of. I wasnt there and the records will never be brought to light as far as the child welfare case. Whenever your shoot a gun that many times and that close to the victims, theres going to be blood and powder residues. Mission accomplished. And he grew up there. The diagnosis of the psychiatrist for the state is also clearly documented. Farrah had trouble with the law because of a passionate love affair with a movie director. Her children were obviously more severely injuredbecause being captive in the car while a shooter aimed at them gave them less of a chance to wiggle out of the situation than an adult outside the car. Late one May night in 1983, Diane Downs sped into an emergency room dropoff in Springfield, Ore., with a horrifying story to tell. Apparently drug mafia wanted to punish her for messing her nose in forbidden places, not because she was getting any real business in that but simply because she had one of the poorest judgements a person can have. View theaffidavits. What?? This was all logged in Christies hospital reports and is found in the Appendix of the petition filed in Federal Court in 1996 in the section Hospital Reports.. The kids were shorted-changed. Its a fact. When a white attractive woman like Diane Downs appears on the scene while displaying seemingly unpleasant characteristics as a mother and a personality disorder, there is no telling what the media will do with the story. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Nevertheless, what was done seemed out of our hands and we could have no contact with them at all. When you hear her in interviews she sounds more concerned with herself than her kids. Hi Nanette, it is not a matter of being gullible. It really doesnt matter that much of the trial and due process was faulty, because its so obvious that Diane is the one who did it and that justice was served. I appreciate this whole blog just want to give you a heads up. As we have reported in great detail in the past, Diane Downs could not possibly have committed the crime of shooting her children, or there would have been evidence of gunpowder residue and blood. Considering the lack of evidence, it seems that she was condemned mostly because of herinappropriatestatements and behavior. Hugi didnt rush in and take the kids, he had time to consider. Seems like she was her worst enemy. If it was not such a high profile case, Diane Downs would have been paroled a long time ago, considering her good behavior and lack of priors. The police DID fingerprint the car, from grill to trunk and in between. She is nowhere near being paroled and if she admitted guilt, I am not even convinced they would release her. I have nothing to gain and I am not making up songs and dances about a unicorn. She could have stayed on the side of the road. Would you know at what speed you are going if you were shot and driving with wounded children in the car? How ironic that the court and cops were so quick to believe Steve Downs, but he gave up on his own children after the tragedy. Her father passed away in October 2017 after having fought relentlessly for her release. Mind: Wrongful convicted. Of course. The fact that the accused in this case was atypical, makes her the perfect target. a clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. This blogger believes in the presumption of innocence and in the possibility of redemption. I would also like to express my disbelief that the same judge presided over both the child welfare case and the criminal one. Robert Schlosser, Cathy's father, lives in a 900 . As she walked away, Detective Welch called after her, If you dont testify against Steve, youre going to lose everything. Diane turned back to say, Show me proof, and walked away. The harm done to families by unscrupulous district attorneys who bully children into falsely testifying against their parents has been recorded in a documentary called Witch Hunt by Sean Penn about Kern County (CA) District Attorney Ed Jagels. They finally charged her and she did 10 years for the death of her children. Not unlike Diane, Alice did not want to share her pain in public. And Ann Rule said that the unicorn that was omnipresent in court was part of the premeditation. It no longer matters as far as the verdict, she was found guilty, but why no parole? Removing the children from her and presiding over her criminal trial? During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a , Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. Lise lasalle you mention THIS When she (Diane) resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. Brewer changed his mind. You seem to believe everyone is innocent. But in their defense, they were told at trial what gun was used by Diane to shoot the kids and it must have been very difficult to overcome the emotions brought on by the words of little Christie even if it was pretty obvious during her testimony that she was confused and unreliable. So not addressing the content of the blog and rambling about everything else while asking for a disclaimer is nailing it? They would have welcomed them with open arms. Her release was recommended by a warden and a psychiatrist. In my opinion, the investigation was too hasty and only focused on Diane. The GSR? They went through the process which demonstrates a certain level of commitment in itself. The authorities believed that the children's father was not a good fit to look after the children after what they had endured when their mother tried to murder them. She is supposed to be locked up for murder, etc. They are set in stone and people refuse to see it any other way. It was one of the most disturbing stories I've watched. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. I am not sure. During a trial, we have to go with evidence only. Thanks again. Otherwise you just want people to fill your echo chamber that agree with you, tell anyone else you obviously dont want to debate me.., then ban, then hope for people to agree. Tis why at 10 years old I was hearing about this case in Ohio, and family members talked about it around me.it hit with great force that way. There have been behaviors that in the general course of events one may expect from a single parent that in a way have been falsely interpreted as being some form of evil.. Right?? She should of been sentenced to death. As an adoptive parent I cant even imagine trying to justify to my daughter our adopting her if we had in any way been a part of the case to terminate her from her bio family. It seems that the Downs were totally ignored. Diane was found guilty and sentenced to life and she has been in prison ever since. I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. Ive been to London to Fly the Queen ~ and Back to Collect Artifacts, Haleigh Cummings Was Once Lost but Now She Is Found, Meet Rene Acoby: In-House Female Dangerous Offender, Kelli Stapleton- A Mothers Wuthering Woes. Where to begin? Their goal was to make Dian look crazy, because sane people dont shoot their children. Page 6 of Case History. The Six Degrees of Separation of Nancy Grace, Kelli Stapleton- A Mother's Wuthering Woes, http://www.glamour.com/story/i-found-out-my-mother-was-a-killer-the-rebecca-babcock-story, http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf, http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july152013/midnight-med-tb-2.php, http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n364/a03.html, http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080910_Prison-happy_U_S__must_reconsider_use_of_mercy.html, http://sputniknews.com/us/20150620/1023613662.html#ixzz3djEXlSAC, http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_prison_state_of_america_20141228, https://www.google.com/search?q=diane+downs+with+christie+cheryl+and+danny&sxsrf=ACYBGNQDEM3XNQjZXlqNQpYLhZCn7ic5iw:1576689995166&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjNuNT427_mAhUcJTQIHbveBMIQ_AUoAXoECA4QAw&biw=1024&bih=462#imgrc=gQkU10UxNhHn_M, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLkIcSzftE&ab_channel=DianeDownsArchives, Say Her Name But Spell It Right The Tale of Breonna Taylor, And Justice For All The Watts Family Murders, Babe in the Woods & Big Country The Murder of Nicole Vanderheyden, Colonel Russell Williams Where Have You Been? I followed the trial. But in my opinion, it shows how Diane was disturbed and could also have found a better path in life if given the chance and the right support. Many troubling elements of the case were discovered after the trial, but there was enough during the proceedings to be asking questions. While I appreciate your empathy for the victims of this crime, I have to wonder if all murderers should be locked up their entire life? All the reports and even the warden thought she was not a threat anymore. It was writtenrepeatedly in the daily notes that the children were happy to see their mom and asked for her. So how she behaved at the time, should not have been a factor influencing the authorities. This is basically the book best kept secrets in condensed form full of outlandish theories. If appropriate family members could not be found to take placement of the children then family friends are the next step. And she clearly remembered the April 1983, rape that Mr. Downs would later refer to as love making. Dianes daughter started saying that she did not know who shot them right when she got adopted. And Steven was free to follow her lead or not. What mother takes her kids out at night and then stops for a stranger with her kids in the car? It was flawed. I couldnt get my hands on the book nor find anything in librariesso basically it was many years later I dove into knowing more about this case, that kinda haunted me. You are not the only one who thinks she is guilty and I know that getting their man at all cost is a popular mantra, but I disagree. Diane Downs is no exception. Diane was in the hospital for a bone graft from June 2nd until June 6th, 1983. Just goes to show how difficult it is sometimes to find the truth. Steven and Diane married on November 13, 1973. You say she made more of a fuss about her arm than about the injuries her children sustained. Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath. Interesting that the article has one of the same elements that Diane perpetrated when she drove to the hospital the night of the murders she made more of a fuss about her arm injury than she did about one of her kids dying and two of them being gravely and permanently wounded. You left and you and Diane Downs spent an evening at a motel? They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business. If you think you would have more influence arguing for better relationships with Mexico at a Donald Trump rally in Mexico, why bother? So I start with that bit of history in mind. She had been the bread winner for most of her marriage, and never wavered in her desire to bring financial stability to her family. I found your blog to be very well written, informative and interesting. 3) You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. Speculative. He didn't indicate whether Downs would appeal. Danny downs did indeed say a man shot him he also blamed a cartoon character. Diane had met all the requirements to be paroled. Foster Carers says either Australia or England to me. The states own witness, Dr. George Suckow and Dr. Polly Jamison denounced Prosecutor Hugis practice as improper and unethical (Appendix 101 and 104). (Appendix 3). Libby, I quoted what Diane said. Did she act like a average person? How asinine. That she had no blood or gun powder anywhere when she allegedly shot at close range? Instead, it is Diane who fought to keep her children. Everything I outlined should be public knowledge. I watched the paroles hearing in 08, was lucky to find it, it was streamed live at the timemy sister, who is a whiz with computers, found it for me. 4. Is it just to continue to punish her so long after she is obviously no longer a danger in any way to anyone? He knows as he was in court and must have photos. He should have let someone else handle the case or let someone else adopt the kids. The twosome first crossed paths in 2003 when Shahi. The case was so one sided that it is about time some of us bring up the other side. And even when confronted by the wrongful practices used at trial to get her convicted, are ok with her being locked up for life. I will talk to Dianes brother. It was a fairly new science at the time so thats all it took to find him not guilty. How could Christie say anything but the things they told her to say with that kind of influence? No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. Diane Downs was convicted because she didn't appear "sorry enough" during her TV appearances. A. I dont recall telling her to get an apartment. That says it all. But you are right, some members of the jury and public had a reasonable doubt. If not from her high profile status, she would already be out. I am not biased. Christie became the star witness against her mother and who could resist such a touching testimony? Late Tom Billings had been the first who openly questioned Diane Downs guilt. The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb: opinion, not fact A steel plate had to be attached and some lead fragments were removed. Shes where she belongs. In the blog, there is a link on the subject of bipolar people who tend to laugh at the wrong time. Not optional, kids should not be in limbo that long, but it happens all the time. This is also what the state did to her. I lived in Eugene, Oregon for years. Litigating at the Supreme Court in . According to Oregon law, this would have to be supported by a psychiatrists report or a Wardens letter and Diane provided both. She keeps her emotions under tight control, presenting only socially acceptable feelings and burying other contradictory feelings.. did he have eyes in the back of his head.???? 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