our privacy/terms or if you just want to see the damn My conclusion is still that these people were way too obese, way too short-legged, way too short, way too fat-faced, or way too skinny in 2017 to be BG - whether OBG sketch or YBG sketch. [quote] Who the hell would walk that bridge, much less allow kids to walk on it alone? That little girl came as close to death as is possible without dying. That Abby was posed like a doll with her hands folded but not sure what that means. These were produced by information gained from witnesses near the area during time frame. For unknown reasons, German took out her phone and recorded a brief video of the man but Germans decision proved prescient. Libby was experienced on the bridge. That first composite sketch was created after police said they received information from witnesses who were in the area at the time Libby and Abby went missing. A. Ted Bundy even applied make-up and nail polish to the bodies, and also had sex with the bodies. But, it still doesn't feel like he's the killer. Imagine knowing the killer is in the community, could be someone you speak to everyday and they are just walking about as if nothing happened. The basics: Two teen girls walking on a deserted bridge in Feb 2017 go missing and are found brutally murdered the next day, about 3/4 of a mile from the bridge. They have to be extremely careful not give the killer's defence ANY reason to make the jury doubt he did it. R299, the tattoo dates to before the murders, there's a photo of him playing with a puppy in 2016 where he has the tat. Those trails are where kids went. R127 I guess thats more comforting than just a random killer R83 cops are not releasing those details. This case has really resonated with sleuth-wannabe fraus. To this day, he says between 6-8 people work on Libby and Abbys case each day throughout the week. Q. @R321-- I honestly didn't see another face tattoo because I was so horrified by that one. R340, they do not doubt it's him, it's me- i just think it's too soon to say it's definitely him. Maybe there is a ring of guys involved. I cant go back to sleep now I need to know what happened to that girl on Facebook! Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer. I finally turned on my CC and muted the tv. What about Gabriel Ellis or Kurt Fouts (caught with an escort who said that judge Fouts was part of a sex club run by men who abuse girls in 2017).? If interested, check out the podcast murder sheet which actually has a reading of the 130 page transcript. I knew nothing about the case until today, but when I heard the man say Guys, down the hill it seemed like he was signalling other people via some Bluetooth handsfree set. He will kill again, and has probably killed before. Knowing a little bit about that case, because I briefly consulted with one of the investigators shortly after the Golden State Killer case, I know that they have a tough investigation ahead, and they are doing everything they can to try to get that case solved.. Stuff they are releasing now is ridiculously old (did you see a car parked in a lot that no longer exists 2 years ago?). People age so differently. I don't know why for 5 years the cops couldn't reveal the time this all occurred. Libby added, "But not THOSE photos! LE released the only the 2nd sketch shortly after the murders. As more Delphi murders updates come in, all it takes is one phone call, according to State Police Superintendent Doug Carter. DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. Q. I wonder if they were taken somewhere else, killed, and their bodies returned to the river after the search was called off. Yeah..:I wondered because it sounds like from her posts that he fooled them into thinking he was law enforcement. How do you think he killed them? He did not elaborate on any details about the investigation into Chadwell. Learn How rich is She in this year and how She spends money? Not knowing the cause of death makes it worse because any terrible thing you can imagine could be true Did anyone watch the HSN special tonight? I think this is the other murder she was talking about. I remember when this happened, and thinking that they would have someone in no time. It's a dangerous bridge with rotting slats of wood that you have to look at and be careful stepping on. It seems like a very bold murder when it's about controlling two people. The parents did a piss poor job of supervising their kids. Also I would never have pegged that guy for an cop. R96 I thought the SAME thing and then felt guilty for it! The tattoo is the image of the type of victims he kills. I always roll my eyes at the 'owed money to drug dealers' theory. The bodies of Abby Williams, 13, and her best friend Libby German, 14, were discovered near a river a short distance away from the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, on February 14, 2017. There has yet to be a break in the case, although authorities believe it just takes one piece of the puzzle to solve the horrific Delphi, Indiana, murders. Actress. Hope we have answers soon. WebJust to remind you guys, that the 'cause of death' is not the same as the 'mode of death'. Ive also read her body was still warm when they found her the next day.Its so awful to think maybe she could have been saved had she been found the day/night before. I think he must have had a gun, I have a hard time seeing how he could have killed them otherwise. I am assuming the killer was able to force the girls off the path and "down the hill" by either brandishing a gun or pretending he had a gun in his pocket. I don't think that the fat guy and his dad are the actual killer(s). I do hope the killer is not in or related to LE and being protected. However, I do not think she is trustworthy. The Delphi killings remain a uniquely disturbing case that refuses to leave the publics consciousness. A rare development in the case was shared by cops earlier this week when they announced they were hunting for the creator of a bogus social media profile that was grooming underage girls and attempting to meet with them. The police sketch that LE recently released (where the guy looks younger) was actually the first police sketch that was drawn. He does say, in the 2020 HLN podcast, that signatures are there. Lawrence's death was not being treated as suspicious. No one really has a good idea of what he looks or sounds like. "We realized that this is a totally different type of investigation.. It was the last time the girls were seen alive, and the recordings German collected on her phone including a chilling recording of the mans voice remains almost the only evidence ever released to the public in whats become known as the Delphi murders. I discovered this whilst setting my PVR. This tragedy brought out so many scummy true crime fame whores. He looks like every average white guy between 25-50 who lives in the Midwest. This young guy, our cousin, who called himself her protector was the prime suspect. Same build, coloring, age of victims. While the suspect remains at large, Kelsi said at the time that she was confident in law enforcement's ability to achieve justice for Liberty. There is a new sketch of BG in which he looks much younger. The disgraced Judge is now representing one of the Delphi meth heads whose gang could have killed the Delphi girls. Maam? This tattoo. If the sheriff is indeed innocent, this documentary didnt do him any favors. The Daily Fail has an article posted today that has a suspect being investigated. Its been four years and despite the evidence one of the victims was able to leave, the case has not been solved. . If they arrest someone, the clock starts ticking for a speedy trial for the killer(s). "I don't want this person to do this again, and if he has, I hope that I'm able to help that family and be a part of their lives eventually," Kelsi said. They have loud piano music drowning out the grandmother right now. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------. The primary focus by investigators is on the second sketch. I don't work in I.T. They're probably going to kill you anyway. He convinced her that he loved her and when she agreed to marry him he coldly dumped her and never spoke to her again. But still killing two teenage girls who decided at the last minute to take an unadvertised hike? Holy shit! A second sketch was released at the press conference held on April 22, 2019. Especially, when they had to be driven to the secluded location. "This is not two people speaking. I fell down into a rabbit hole of podcasts (they are several good ones devoted to this story) and Reddit threads. All they have is a few words and a blurry image. He collected a lot of weird knives, I think. Have they interviewed Pastor Davey? I'm not sure how I feel. YouTubeAbby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. If there is DNA, has it been run against a genealogy DNA database? One girl was just in the wrong place, wrong time. The fat pedo does look like the old Bridge Man police sketch but then almost every guy in the state of Indiana looks like the Old Bridge Guy sketch. Does anyone have a link to the image, I've searched but not been able to find it. Friends of the two said they had seen them together around 9:30 p.m. or 10 p.m. on March 5, 1971, in the area of East Market Street and South Matlack Street. I am starting to wonder if they really dont have much of anything beyond what we have seen. A brief audio clip, which police have always said was just a small clip of what they have from Libbys phone, was released on Feb. 22, 2017. We will update Delphi Lawrence's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. What good is it if you haven't done your investigation so that you can get a conviction. HE WALKED SLOW ON THE BRIDGE!). I never wanted children and dont even like them but this case really bothers me. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. I think you could be right about that being all they have UNLESS everything else is too disturbing (him talking but you can also hear the girls pleading or whatever). Although investigators have never given the exact context to the images or audio taken from the video, they have said they were taken during suspected criminal activity.. Slowly. Too bad this pos hasn't. (example: cause of death: spinal fractures mode of death: falling of the bridge in a suspected suicide) 8 Reply Molleeryan 6 yr. ago That's the problem with the internet. Fry em. It seems pretty in-line with their murders. How would this case be handled from the beginning had there not been any audio/video of the person of interest? The guys and down the hill are in order, according to one of the parents/grandparents who listened to the recording and were interviewed on a podcast. B.g. For example, if you listen to the sound clip (the best version is on FBI website, you can clearly hear one of the girls yelling Oh, my GOD! between the Guys and Down the hill. According to one family member who heard the recording, the sound of a gun being cocked can also be heard. So very tragic. On the favorite mystery thread, a poster mentioned the Delphi Murders and I looked them up. She may have been in costume and said down the hill. Q. Could have happened in a lot of places unless you're watching your kids 24/7 (unrealistic, and this is still a very rare thing to happen). He wasn't speaking extemporaneously; he read it from notes. a hair, a skin sample from nails, just SOMETHING. As a kid, I played in places like that without a thought. Like when people put up side-by-side photos of innocent peopleor, at least, people with no ties to the state of Indiana or Delphiwhich creates false [information]. "When we decided that, through the information we received, that we were going to release the second sketch I dont believe the individual knew we were going to do that. And if more children were abused, all the more appalling, Also from reddit: YouTuber with screenshots of suspicious activity between Keegan and his dad. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United View popular celebrities life details, birth signs and real ages. The guy is way older. Clearly, being the the murderer of two children would be a worse situation for the killer than the father of boy who had impregnated his 13 year old girlfriend. And yes, their deaths were violent. Police released the images they say were taken straight from Libbys cell phone, on Feb. 15, 2017 the day after the girls bodies were found. Little by little, he broached the subject with relatives who had previously remained silent about the death. Electrocute his sick, sadistic, sorry ass. But the news reports did not reach the victims younger brother, Dwayne Lawrence. Although it has been three long years since that warm February day, Indiana State Police say they still receive new tips about Abby and Libbys murders almost daily. (R48) On reddit a women is claiming to have images of one little girl, deceased of course. Three years in, here's everything we know about the investigation into the murders of Libby and Abby: It was an unseasonably warm day and an unexpected day off from school when friends Liberty German and Abigail Williams decided to visit the trails near the Monon High Bridge and take some photographs. To install click the Add extension button. It bothered me that another child would have to be hurt, possibly killed to solve this crime. It's a strange case. I think that the escort who blew the whistle on the Lafayette's Men Club that shared girls and subjected them to horrible abuse + the Judge who had to resign could be part of the Delphi Murders. Isn't part of the id problem a lot of guys look like h? [R460], I don't understand this either: "Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer." He looks similar build/type to the video. There was an excerpt of an interview with the Anthony shots guy. The girls had noticed the pervy guy earlier when they later noticed him following them across the abandoned train trestle. Then why haven't they identified him? Some of the girls' clothing was found floating in the creek that they had been forced to cross. I am praying they catch this guy in my lifetime. Law enforcement's relative radio silence over the probe has permitted a swell of speculation to mount online - something Holeman acknowledged. I mean, not knowing the howmeans any awful thing you think of, if that makes sense. I want to know more about what kind of DNA they have and if it could get the killer. I think justice would be to lock him in a room with some of the townspeople and let them at him. As per the report, Delphi Lawrence lives in. She made a video about it where she says there is a sex club run by men in Lafayette (25 minutes from Delphi) and they kidnap girls for sexual pleasure. not saying they were sexually assaulted, but posed they were. I guess this was someone just trying to get off on feeling powerful answering questions. Please click here to update your account with a username and password. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who I would never have believed then that it would still be going on 4 years later. Kim Riley told RTV6 at the time. The first thing found was the girls clothing so it's likely they were sexually assaulted. That wasnt the first time hes been on that high bridge, my opinion, again thats my opinion. Are there any possible POIs who are widely believed to be involved, or does everyone on Reddit have their own pet perp? Your first thought is, the BG was some transient perv who abducted them to rape them. Maybe the families meant that the girls going to the bridge that day was not due to being specifically catfished on that day. Idk why. That Robert Lindsay guy was a huge creep. R81's theory makes sense. The second Delphi murders photo, though blurry, does seem to show someone wearing a dark jacket similar to the one in the suspects photo, though police are hesitant to make any statements about this, and subsequently, have not commented on this matter. Another theory is first sketch (old guy) was taken from witnesses and the video. This also speaks to an evidentiary aspect of the investigation. Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]. If only. James Brian Chadwell II, who pleaded guilty to abducting, beating, and molesting a nine-year-old girl in April, was identified as a potentail suspect earlier this year. But the Facebook is a girlso you believe its a male? This case is just so frustrating. We all are speculating because we know nothing except what has been released to the public, which is strangely very little. His eyes are chilling. And I think were one piece away one piece.. Im guessing Gelsons or The Abbey with her twink coke whores. This speaks to an evidentiary aspect of the investigation and I would respectfully prefer not to answer. Crossing the bridge was not permitted and signs were posted. Also, the way he was standing in one picture was almost exactly the same stance as BG. This case got under my skin. Every tip received is entered into an FBI system called Pyramid. That system stores information like names, descriptions and motives so it can be cross-referenced with other tips locally and across the country to find any possible connections. . The girl on Facebook who posted that she knew the killer and the details and name of the killer has deleted the comments. The Websleuther who dug up the scanner traffic wrote: State Police out of Lafayette have an 8-county coverage area - including in and around Monticello. Years ago I went down the Beeks rabbit hole and crawled out concluding the Beeks have nothing to do with this. I stopped following this case. I thought well, maybe most women have nails like that and Ive just never noticed. In the two years since Libby and Abby were murdered, the evidence released to the public has remained minimal. One of them started filming him but stuck her phone in her pocket when he got close so he wouldn't see it. Sgt. but doesnt live there. R23 Thats awful. What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. Leigh Kerr appears to be intelligent and if he/she is for real, my guess is he/she is an attorney in the DAs office. Just like serial killers of women, they have a "type" . I live in Indiana and LE mentioned at one time the girls were controlled by the mans dogs and the bodies had bite marks. don't in any way contradict the date of the murders. The trial, in which the prosecution sought the death penalty against the then 19-year-old Garnett, lasted from Monday through Saturday night, and was featured on the front page of the Daily Local News each day. This page will put a light upon the Delphi Lawrence bio, wiki, age, birthday, family details, affairs, controversies, caste, height, weight, rumors, lesser-known facts, and more. I murdered her, Durnell testified. That recording must haunt them. Seems now its all about standard Jesus-hollering Christian community dudes under suspicion. R128 and R129 This is why the crime won't be solved. Reminds me of this sick fuck. I wish someone with money or connections would help these families hire a private investigator or lawyer to access additional details on the case. No? Down the hill and two sketches from possible witnesses in the area the day the girls were murdered. tragic. The second piece of evidence is a short audio clip which was also found on Libbys phone. R345, it's stated upthread that his creepy tattoo pre-dates the Delphi murders. Like us on Facebook at www.facebook.com/TheSunUS and follow us from our main Twitter account at @TheSunUS, Baby's body found after huge search, as cops quiz Constance Marten & lover, I took pic of son, 18, before his first night out then the worst thing happened, Meg & Harry 'stunned' by King's 'cruel' Frogmore eviction 'punishment', Harry and Meghan evicted from Frogmore Cottage by King Charles after Spare memoir, News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. All the "recent" info is a bunch of conjecture from a supposed insider who has been all over the FB groups and Reddit. I was thinking one of them was posed as if crucified. I dont believe the abortion by murder story. Some armchair detectives have even gone as far as attempting to reconstruct the murders in elaborate YouTube videos. I feel like the girls would have maybe tried to flirt or talk to a younger guy. Did they stop recording or was it all CSI could salvage? The area around the Monon High was searched for The Innocent Project has been successful in overturning some murder convictions, mostly because of new DNA evidence that points away from the defendant. R144, they documentary indicated that many were investigated and interviewed. Chadwell is not the first person accused of an abduction crime who has been investigated as a person of interest in the Delphi murders. Shins. Abby was collateral damage. Q. Hello and thank you for being a DL contributor. The guy in the video is way older. The girls' causes of death have never been disclosed and their killer has never been found. If they did they wouldn't be in business long. Listen above to the History Uncovered podcast, episode 24: The Delphi Murders, also available on. I found the Facebook page for KS. but youd think it was the Boulder police. If ithe Bridge Man was someone in law enforcement, the girls may have initially trusted him and acted with compliance if he showed his badge. I saw someone mention they thought both girls were strangledthinking about that, means 1 girl had to watch this happen to the other..which i dont see happening. He is currently serving a life sentence without parole. And I guess not knowing the cause of death and WHY he did this makes it even more disturbing. Again, after studying serial killers for decades I believe he was unknown to the girls. Please clarify the two sketches, this has been a point of confusion since the second sketch was released. However, if there's a whole ring behind this anthony_shots profile, maybe that's what they're trying to get him to expose. READ | Investigators say internet rumors can hinder search for Delphi killer. This is why I question that persons credibility. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. Delphi Lawrences hobbies are Reading, photography, learning, traveling, internet surfing and to name a few. He just needs to know when the trail exists, when it is empty, and that two women entered alone. The physical similarities are pretty striking between BG and PB, that's true. At the time, the suspect was described as a white man between 5-feet 6-inches tall and 5-feet 10-inches tall, weighing 180 to 220 pounds with reddish brown hair and an unknown eye color. The pair of eighth-graders spent the afternoon posting photos of their journey on Facebook. Highly unlikely theyre not in the loop. DELPHI | Libby German's sister hopes Twitter can help find her killer, "(We) thought we were going to get the clues that we needed and be done with this in four or five days," ISP Detective Jerry Holeman told RTV6 in 2019. in 1984. Later in Part II, they show video footage of a press conference held with the sheriff positioned behind the officer leading the conference. Since then, no other potential suspects have been named by investigators. Hello and thank you for registering. They also released an audio recording of a man believed to be the suspect instructing the girls to go down the hill.. I don't think enforcers usually kill children. R382, they were 13 and 14 and in this day and age, yes you have to be super diligent with kids. I never thought this guy did it because the body just didnt match. A person named Kegan Anthony Kline has been arrested in connection with the Monday night plea from Indiana State Police. Who knows if it was the real Kokomo Pastor JDW. Stayed tune. Also the video and audio are horrifying. Why have no other photos from Libbys phone been released to the public? I suspect he was there on a few occasions looking for the right moment and a victim. Kline reportedly admitted to police that he'd use the bogus accounts to talk to underage girls, contacting both people he knew and didnt know. R392 I've clearly said that the tattoo could be any of the 3 women - Libby, Linda Blair in The Exorcist or his mother. It was probably the county sheriff's nephew. My best guess, and I believe this has been said by many people, is that the details around the cause of death are known to only a select number of people, including the killer(s). It is very difficult to study this case. This is the fatal flaw. I would have great concerns over that case.. I just finished part II. Oh Dear, this is so just so close to home! R143, I dont have HLN. "'Everybody sees a person differently. At least the FBI is investigating. "The sketch isnt a photograph. He was sending me full essays about hebephilia until I blocked him. James Chadwell should have been killed by the cops whrn they found the naked, sexually abused and beaten till almost dead, 9 year old girl locked in his basement. It has to be him. Just two years older than Delphi, she considered him her protector in dealing with the kids in West Chester, Lawrence said. For whatever reason I feel the killer is associated but not the family. Also, why does the recording stop where it does? Also praying that this monster is removed from society. What's the update? We know how the girls died. Thanks for proving why we should NOT have the death penalty, r194, the difference is that Lam wasn't even murdered, while these girls clearly were. And isn't that area known as a popular place to hike, and i think people took wedding photos, engagement pictures there. She trained as a concert pianist before becoming an actress, training at RADA and graduating in 1949. 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